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Being bounced

3 messages in this thread | Started on 2003-02-09

Being bounced

From: Mary Ellen (memlili54@yahoo.com) | Date: 2003-02-09 18:58:38 UTC
I also discovered I was getting bounced. Does anyone have any idea
what that is all about? I clean out my mailbox everyday so there is
plenty of room. If anyone has a clue I would love to hear what it is
all about. (Fortunately I have figured out how to get "unbounced".)
Memlili


Re: [LbNA] Being bounced

From: Doug Gerlach (silentdoug@douglasgerlach.com) | Date: 2003-02-10 11:52:56 UTC-05:00
At 06:58 PM 2/9/2003 +0000, Mary Ellen wrote:
>I also discovered I was getting bounced. Does anyone have any idea
>what that is all about? I clean out my mailbox everyday so there is
>plenty of room. If anyone has a clue I would love to hear what it is
>all about. (Fortunately I have figured out how to get "unbounced".)

Sometimes, your ISP's mail server may slow down or stop temporarily. It
might be overloaded, or your ISP may have rebooted the server, or it may
have crashed. When that happens, the server that's trying to send email to
your ISP will not be able to get through to your account. However, the
people who created the Internet's mail protocols knew that sometimes
servers would have trouble communicating on a temporary basis, so they
designed the system in such a manner that the server sending email will
automatically try again later, and then again and again for the next couple
of days until it is (hopefully) finally able to get through. When this
happens, it's called a "soft bounce." A "hard bounce" is what happens when
the email address is nonexistent.

Now, when the mail server for Yahoo! Groups gets too many soft bounces for
a user, they suspend that email address so that they don't waste too many
computer resources in trying to resend the message over and over again.
Soft bounces are not uncommon -- they happen every day. On one Internet
discussion list with which I'm involved, there are 4,000 subscribers, and
traffic can be 75-100 messages a day. For any particular message that's
posted to the list, several hundred email addresses may generate transient
errors. Most users never even know about it -- at least until their account
is suspended for having too many soft bounces. If you get the LBNA list by
email, you can check your own ISP's bounce history at the Yahoo! Groups
site by clicking the "Bounce History" link.




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Silent Doug, P21 F109 X04
silentdoug@douglasgerlach.com
http://www.letterboxing.info


Re: [LbNA] Being bounced

From: Mary Ellen Martel (memlili54@yahoo.com) | Date: 2003-02-10 20:14:24 UTC-08:00

Thank you for that explanation!

Memlili

 Doug Gerlach <silentdoug@douglasgerlach.com> wrote:

At 06:58 PM 2/9/2003 +0000, Mary Ellen <memlili54@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I also discovered I was getting bounced.  Does anyone have any idea
>what that is all about?  I clean out my mailbox everyday so there is
>plenty of room.  If anyone has a clue I would love to hear what it is
>all about.  (Fortunately I have figured out how to get "unbounced".)

Sometimes, your ISP's mail server may slow down or stop temporarily. It
might be overloaded, or your ISP may have rebooted the server, or it may
have crashed. When that happens, the server that's trying to send email to
your ISP will not be able to get through to your account. However, the
people who created the Internet's mail protocols knew that sometimes
servers would have trouble communicating on a temporary basis, so they
designed the system in such a manner that the server sending email will
automatically try again later, and then again and again for the next couple
of days until it is (hopefully) finally able to get through. When this
happens, it's called a "soft bounce." A "hard bounce" is what happens when
the email address is nonexistent.

Now, when the mail server for Yahoo! Groups gets too many soft bounces for
a user, they suspend that email address so that they don't waste too many
computer resources in trying to resend the message over and over again.
Soft bounces are not uncommon -- they happen every day. On one Internet
discussion list with which I'm involved, there are 4,000 subscribers, and
traffic can be 75-100 messages a day. For any particular message that's
posted to the list, several hundred email addresses may generate transient
errors. Most users never even know about it -- at least until their account
is suspended for having too many soft bounces. If you get the LBNA list by
email, you can check your own ISP's bounce history at the Yahoo! Groups
site by clicking the "Bounce History" link.




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Silent Doug, P21 F109 X04
silentdoug@douglasgerlach.com
http://www.letterboxing.info


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